Bowling Bash gutter lines have been removed. and you can't spam and be super effiicient without full high end gear basically. Land protection's last cell will still be affected by land protection. GRF Editor can generate flat maps with optional gutter lines from any map. with a 200% damage reduction being the difference between a two shot and a three shot on a mob. The server im playing is classic, no trans, just 2nd job and umbala episode is the new update. In fact, if you knew nothing about gutter lines at all, you are more likely to BB a mob outside of gutter line than in it with the non gutter line areas being larger and all. nothing else. You can make grf edits to only display gutter lines and leave the 3D maps intact. So of course they should have the best AOE mobbing ability. 3) Extract the „RCX Client“ folder somewhere. they damn well should be. you mob fast, you level fast, you do more dps. Only tools that help them mob. There is no compromise to reach but balancing the game. GutterLines This no longer works now that iRo is using EAC (future TBD) Gutter line viewer for Ragnarok iRo. all it did was mean we had to move a few cells sometimes with our mob or fly wing when we got hit locked on a gutter line. Bowling Bash is balanced by a knight's limited sp pool and regeneration and the scarcity of sp items. I am also on the opinion that this "fix" is unnecessary, and there is no valid reasoning behind it. So, back on topic: 20% is still 20%. Somewhere along the line they changed up Bowling Bash into this ridiculously powerful skill. You either auto follow priest (then you cant mob a lot of monsters) or you park our priest (cant go very far from your priest before aspersio runs out). they sacrifice that for more dps/aoe mobbing. Yeah, sure. Elemental weapons are nice, but a lot of monsters are formless and don't have a weakness, and bowling bash is pretty weak to those right now. If you are using BB on these gutter lines you only get 1x500% dmg instead of 2x500% off from the gutter lines. Arguments against the nerf are BS. This has nothing to do with class identity, it's a numbers tweak. so do rogues. Of course its good. It brings together a sense of community, nostalgia and competitiveness that goes unmatched by most other American pastimes. Playing around gutter lines is part of the knights life. There will be a 3% TAX on all VENDING Transactions. which we already know dude. This setting will display a map's gutter lines for Bowling Bash. Knights are built to mob. 2) Copy Ragexe from „Ragexe for RCX“ (inside the downloaded .rar folder) to your RO folder and overwrite the current Ragexe. There is an invisible grid on every map that reverts the skill to its older self when performed inside it. I don't have the BiS equipments at the moment, but I do have decent enough gears, and still I feel the difference. And I don't know why you think getting some agi will help you getting hit less. I may move either 5 tiles at left (157, 98) or 5 tiles at right (167, 98). Aspersio at best lasts 3 minutes which no one is gonna mob very far with that. Post Aug 27, 2011 #1 2011-08-27T07:01. Instead, we just get a nerf. My EndlessTower Video WoW (Drak'Thul): Zere, Shadow Priest, (offline too) … I know we all have nightmares about how busted Knights were in Restart, but on every other server I've played they've been just fine. <--- ??? literally no one here is saying the ability isn't good. What did I just read lmfao that's not really how flee works. (hence the post) I've seen  it come up in main chat too. You seem to think its bad that they are good at what they are supposed to be good at. Mobbing alone feels like shit because I have no gear, that's why I party up instead. Knights are going to take damage and sacrfice health. No safety wall, hide, they won't have high flee as they need VIT to survive and they have huge HP pools. tl;dr Apparently, BB effect has been changed in official and there exists these "gutter lines" where you only hit once with BB. http://irowiki.org/wiki/Bowling_Bash, just kinda memorize coordinates between the 40 tiles squares (20,60,100,140,180, etc) and land BB's around there, like, keep an eye in the coordinates below the minimap, From the BB link above, "In PvP environments, Knights may be requested to tank and spread status effects instead of inflict damage." then why shouldn't they be able to mob like a beast. Several functions may not work. Logged Player of Phoenix Fury, Pestilence & Ekirei. But going with the hurr-durr I can do it better than Gravity mentality is way more damaging. And sins have really damn high flee. You can also toggle this setting by using the /bbe command in-game. A lot of people hate Bowling Bash because of the gutter lines. then you brought up a chart comparing them to assassins/rogues who are not a class built for it. no compensation really because, again, we never were on gutter lines anyway. Our bowling parties for kids are fun and easy to plan! I vividly remember playing euRO 14 years ago and nearly every single Knight I saw was a spear build that used Brandish. I have used it a bit and I miss a lot too. They didn't need any nerfs because quite frankly you can't spam the ability. So, today i have a question, is there an official way to avoid Gutter Lines? and that's with your efficiency. This is not the case. Saders dominate the maps they should (demon/undead/shadow). there is. Gutter lines were a fix to a problem that hasn't existed in RO for years and were an unnecessary hindrance to "new" Bowling Bash, so removing them is a quality of life improvement, rather than a buff to the skill. You can't look at abilities in a vacuum imo. But they are balanced around that. Keep the nerf. Gutter lines were a fix to a problem that hasn't existed in RO for years and were an unnecessary hindrance to "new" Bowling Bash, so removing them is a quality of life improvement, rather than a buff to the skill. I don't know what you're trying to get at dude. Did you find this helpful? According to your logic Wizards can't do anything in Renewal compared to Classic because their damage got nerfed. I have used it a bit and I miss a lot too. It’s a bug that has been fixed on kRO – Renewal with the redesign/re-balancing of the 2nd class skills last year. because they felt weaker. Hunters have ankle snare to not get hit. The biggest secret to mastering Bowling Bash is Gutter Lines. and even then you still need pots. It's just that most classes don't even bother doing that right now. Well we aren't. if you're talking about this  sorry but he's only talking about the coordinates below the minimap, something that we already have. Learn More. on Pinterest. Gutter lines were never a problem, until now. I REALLY hope there's something that can be used legally and officially. why would I play knight, burn a shit ton of pots/sp items (assuming im a normal person without Earth Deleter) to have similar dps to other classes (cuz its nerfed right now) when I can just play other classes and not have to spend the pots/sp items. All in all, if the GMs want to nerf, firstly look at more pressing matters, and avoid nerfing unnecessary things. There is no compromise to reach but balancing the game. I'll ask Campitor if I can release it, but it's probably a grey area. those classes have multitude of other strengths. You act like reducing the total BB damage by 20% removes Knights ability to mob and kill monsters. Nerf is absolutely necessary. Not that anyone should care, because no one can detect greyworld anyway if you don't stream, You can make grf edits to only display gutter lines and leave the 3D maps intact. Bowling Bash is using a mechanic which draws gutter lines on a map to prevent massive mobs from chain-reacting. ", http://cp.titanro.net/?module=ranking&action=character&jobclass=7. thats the entire identity. Right now Knights do use more sp/%dmg per BB, but that's intended. but it is mostly terrible because you'd rather play something else with agi then a knight. Even when used with abowon aRogueclass, the skill is still considered Melee. trappers doing 25k-35k is insane. lots of arguments being made, you guys just ignoring them. Holy Cross for one is situationally way more dps than bowling bash on the right target (weak to holy obv) and does stupid damage single target. I don't agree that's their entire identity, but you can mob well like you said. they should be the best by a wide margin since that is their strength. I have a 9x BB/Pierce Knight. I use Aspersio when I'm hunting stuff like Raydrics without bringing my priest with me. Would they be actually bannable realistically speaking? 2) And if I get "Dremuci Forest (mosk_dun03) 212, 120" as example. How desperate are you to have a 20% damage buff on your poorly built knight? By When you're on gutterline, you cannot splash damage with BB (you only hit 1 mobs from your mobpack), thats the ONLY thing we regret, we are not talkin AT ALL about the 2 hits. /memo is disabled on MVP Maps. Also contain Type, Target, Range, sp/hp cost, skill requirement and everything you need to know about Bowling Bash. (right now there are none besides zweihander which is an mvp drop), earth deleter, firelock shoes, etc. GET YOUR OWN TITLE NOW LOL. especially without an earth deleter and let me know how it feels. Any good knight is gonna have some agi to increase BB dps. References ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 TitanRO forums: Server Info An SP consuming skill that requires gear and still can't quite get in enough damage? Keep the nerf, Still not a single argument for reverting a small nerf on the most OP skill of the game in its current state but nonsense about Gravity, gutter lines not being a problem, and whataboutism. using BB OFF gutter lines is bug abusing. And as he Said you use hide and lose aggro and shit. But going with the hurr-durr I can do it better than Gravity mentality is way more damaging. LOL, cause im planning to do some mobbing then bowling bash to be unique. Bowling Bash Nerf Unnecessary and Needs Revert. Mobbing is quite horrible for knights. yes you can build a knight for agi, but why the hell would anyone play an agi knight when they can play an agi sin, rogue, sader, or hunter who does more with the stat a million times better. I get oom SP when playing all classes:P If one dont use ctrl+click to lvl. Knight leveling is fine for both vit and agi, on par or above other classes. Cons: Ignition break has a very high pre-req to get, you won’t get max Ignition Break until a minimum of job 23. Strikes a single target with a smashing blow twice, where each strike will inflict physical damageindividually to all enemies within the area of effect and push them backwards. Knights are built to mob and nothing else. Bowling Bash / Gutter Lines images. Am I the only one to find weird that the guild asking for a buff to BB damages is also the guild with twice the number of high level knights than other guilds? generalist its the best dps ability in the game pre trans, but whats wrong with that? Bowling Bash is OP if you look at it exclusively for what it is alone and not at the class it was put on. Skill Range. If you dont wanna go to an inn farm sp items. I was disappointed in this nerf before I joined any guild, so there goes that. and neither do strawberry raffles. you really haven't made an argument other than it has high dps/strong aoe, etc. If you actually deal proper damage on that location when you are mobbing, use that SAME spot to mob. But hey, I could be complaining about a specific snake oriented card, which should proc 5% only, or with a certain passive skill already learned, shouldn't even take effect, but I am not here to take away the joy of a class, leaving a sour taste in every assassins mouth. there is nothing wrong with that. Grey world is not supported and even a ban offense. Must be ran as admin. This setting will display a circle around your character to show the max casting range of your skills. I've talked to multiple people using BB who told me they didn't even know the skill was nerfed until someone told them, I think you're exaggerating. Stuff like this usually comes down to some ulterior motive, and could tarnish reputations. Those other classes that have AOE have other abilities/skills that make them what they are. it's not that knights completely lost their identity with the nerf, its that you are nerfing them on a basis that has poor logic. Posted on December 30, 2019 | By Wizzzzard | No comments. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. Now BB still does ton of damages and needs a nerf. That you go pure vit is your choice, a hybrid build is way better in the current meta and will make sure you flee some hits too. I don't go pure vit. If a knight can get raydric, a high refine two handed sword that is actually good. Name: Lord Goriotep 99/70 SAVD Bowling Bash Build. Right, I should not have attacked your poorly built knight. I personally think bowling bash hitting twice at such a high chance is too powerful.. The whole idea of "well this is WAY better than other classes AOE so it needs to be nerfed" is silly because it should be way better than other classes. Just look for a grf editing tutorial, but make sure you back up your main grf file in case you mess something up. We don't want a knight-only WoE where other classes are bullied by peco-fast F1-spammers that deal sustained highest physical melee AoE DPS with no drawbacks. Brandish Spear is ok, but it was never comparable to BB. edit: eathena link points out that 2-hits 1 cell knockback BB is a bug, and was never intended to work that way. 715. You flee while mobbing, that's why it's nice. Skill effect and description of the skill Bowling Bash in the mmorpg Ragnarok Online. Ball you from across the map or use something like paint to draw the lines in.. Built for it and have better aoe/sp efficiency than any other class Bash because of endure, and not the... 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